Riley Keough’s Exclusive Phone Interview With Collider

Executive produced by Steven Soderbergh and co-created by Lodge Kerrigan andAmy Seimetz, who also wrote and directed all 13 episodes, the Starz series The Girlfriend Experience follows law student Christine Reade (Riley Keough), who is a new intern at a prestigious law firm where she is working hard to establish herself. Her focus quickly shifts when a classmate introduces her to the world of transactional relationships, known as The Girlfriend Experience or GFE, and Christine quickly finds herself drawn in and attracted to the rush of control and intimacy, no matter the opinion that her family has about her actions and choices.

During this exclusive phone interview with Collider, actress Riley Keough (who gives a brilliantly layered and complex performance as the emotionally hard to read woman at the center of this story) talked about why she felt really lucky to be able to read the full season before shooting, never judging or questioning her character, how liberating it was to play an unapologetic woman, and why she thinks one season was the perfect way to tell this woman’s story. She also talked about reuniting with Steven Soderbergh for his next film, a heist story called Logan Lucky, and the appeal of doing The Discovery and working with Robert Redford.

Collider: Looking back on this series as a whole, did the story, the character and the vision for it turn out pretty close to what you were told, from the beginning, or were there any major detours, along the way?

RILEY KEOUGH: I would say that it was exactly what I thought it was going to be. They had a very strong vision, for the whole thing, and they delivered that vision.

Were you surprised that it did stay so close to what you thought it would be?

KEOUGH: I wasn’t surprised because I think both of the filmmakers, Amy [Seimetz] and Lodge [Kerrigan], and Steven [Soderbergh], are brilliant. I would be surprised if it was terrible.

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With this show, you were able to get the first four scripts to read. Do you think you would have been as open to a role like this, if you had only been able to have one script to go on?

KEOUGH: That’s a good question. I don’t know. I was really lucky and got four, and then when I said okay, I got all 13. I really got to make an educated decision about the project, and I was lucky, in that sense. I have no idea what I would have said from just one episode. But with that said, I also really trust Steven and Amy and Lodge, and their taste and storytelling. So, I probably would have done it anyway.

A lot of actors talk about not needing all of the information about their character ahead of time, but it seems like it might have been helpful, in this instance. Did you find that to be the case?

KEOUGH: Yeah. It depends on the project for me, as far as how I feel about it. But with this particular project, I feel it was really helpful that I had all of the episodes.

You’ve talked about wanting to approach this character from an unbiased place and not wanting to judge her actions or decisions. But were there any times that you found yourself judging her, or at least questioning her actions or motivations? 

KEOUGH: No, not while I was doing it. While I was doing it, I was in that headspace. I feel like, if I was questioning what I was doing than I was doing something wrong because I wasn’t where I was supposed to be, in terms of inhabiting this person. So, the answer is no.

Christine questions her own behavior, asking her sister if she’s a sociopath before being told that she’s not one because sociopaths don’t question whether they are one or not. Do you think she really was experiencing all of the emotions you would expect someone to have, but just kept them buried deep down, or did she not feel the emotions that most people would?

KEOUGH: I think she feels the emotions most people would, but she doesn’t feel the emotions that most people on TV would. I think it’s a little bit more realistic. It’s more flawed than doing something and feeling the repercussions of it immediately, and then crying, or whatever is supposed to happen in a movie or TV show to show you that it’s a good guy. She is a human being, and she’s a bit flawed and not perfect. We wanted to leave exactly how she was feeling up to the audience.

How did you feel about the fact that this young woman didn’t really have a specific explanation or justification for her choices, other than that it’s just what she decided to do?

KEOUGH: I think it’s a really admirable thing to be very sure of your own moral code and not waver from that. If you’re sure of your moral code, your moral code is personal. Something that I admire about Christine is being unapologetic and knowing who she is. That was empowering to play.

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She’s not deterred by the opinions of other people, but did you ever wonder if there could have been anything that would have gotten her to stop what she was doing?

KEOUGH: I don’t think she thought what she was doing was wrong, so I don’t think there was a reason for her to stop.

People talk about the more shocking moments of this show, with the sex scenes, the masturbation scenes and her sitting on the toilet and getting her period, but it’s also refreshing to watch something that is so open with a character. Did it feel more that way, when you were doing it, than it did shocking?

KEOUGH: Yeah, absolutely. It was liberating for me, especially as a woman, to be able to be this unapologetic woman who’s just fine with doing what she’s doing, and who’s not saying sorry to anybody about things one would consider to be wrong. She sticks to the beat of her own drum, and that was liberating.

It was interesting to hear her verbalize that it’s difficult for a woman to be seen as both a sexual person and a competent professional, at the same time, when that’s something that men have to problem with. What do you think it would take for that to change?

KEOUGH: I think it’s exactly what’s happening now, with women being portrayed as human beings, and not just black and white. Men can be the anti-hero all the time, and it’s cool, but when women are, they’re twisted or messed up or something is wrong with them. I think it’s just about portraying women in the world as equals to men, and vice versa.

In what ways would you say this character was easier to play than you thought she would be, and how was she more of a challenge than you expected?

KEOUGH: She was easier than I thought because she was not an unhappy person, so I was not unhappy playing her. That was nice and refreshing for me. And the whole process of acting is hard. There wasn’t anything crazy difficult about it, though. She was genuinely a happy person who was sure of herself, so she wasn’t this tormented person that I had to play. People ask, “It’s a dark show, so did you feel dark?” No, because she doesn’t feel dark.

At the same time, there are definitely things that happen that she probably wishes might have gone a different way, like having her job taken away from her without being able to make that decision herself. So, what do you think her perfect world would have been?

KEOUGH: For her, she doesn’t like a loss of control, so she’s constantly trying to manipulate and control everything. I think by the end, she does ultimately win.

What will you take away from your experience of working with Amy Seimetz and Lodge Kerrigan, especially as you helped them bring their vision of this character to life?

KEOUGH: It was just a really nice experience where I got to work with two filmmakers in a space where I felt like I could say and do whatever I wanted, every day, all day. I had never done television before, so to be able to exist as this character over a long period of time was really nice, as an actor. I had never experienced that before because this was my first TV show. Also, Christine was in pretty much every single scene of the show. It was just a really cool experience for me to have so long to be this person, in this space where we all agreed on most things. It was just a good group of people that Steven put together. He’s so supportive of other artists and he knows how different energies will work together. It was just a great experience, really.

Because nothing about Christine’s life is really resolved and we don’t have any idea what might be next for her, did you think about where she might have gone, after we leave her, or what she ultimately might have ended up doing with her life?

KEOUGH: I didn’t. I felt closure with her. I just left her there. I felt done playing Christine. I was never really meant to do a Season 2. It was just going to be one season, and if they did another season, it was going to be a different story. But when I finished, even if they had wanted me to, I just didn’t feel like there was anywhere else I could go with her and I felt like I was done with that, so I’m glad it was a one-season thing.

You’re also working with Steven Soderbergh again for his next film, Logan Lucky. We know that’s about a pair of brothers who plan a heist during a high-profile Nascar race, but what can you say about where your character fits in?

KEOUGH: I don’t know how much I’m allowed to say, but he’s always got something up his sleeve and he’s always doing something wild and different. I’m really excited to be a part of anything he does. He’s a genius, so I’m excited.

The Discovery also sounds very interesting, being a love story set after the existence of the afterlife is scientifically verified. What appealed to you about that story?

KEOUGH: I’ve always been fascinated by life after death, and that was the subject matter of the film. There are not a lot of films on that subject, and it’s something I think about often, probably every day. It was refreshing to read it. I didn’t feel as crazy. And then, I met (writer/director) Charlie [McDowell] and he was great, and I just wanted to work with him.


Was it cool to get to work with Robert Redford? Is he just a totally normal guy?

KEOUGH: I wouldn’t call him normal. He’s down-to-earth and kind, yes, but almost more kind and more down-to-earth than a normal person. He’s got such an intense presence. He’s a movie star, and he still has that. It’s intense to be around and it’s a beautiful thing. It was a moment in my life where it was like, “Wow, I’m in a film with Robert Redford. That’s pretty fuckin’ epic!” It’s probably going to be one of the coolest things I’ll look back on and remember. He’s hilarious, charming, kind, cheeky, and all those great movie star qualities.

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Emmy Contender Riley Keough Calls Her ‘Girlfriend Experience’ Character a ‘Practical Girl Who Likes Sex’ (Video)

“If I was reading this pilot about a man, I would be like, ‘Yeah! He’s got swagger,’” she tells TheWrap.

A version of this story on Riley Keough first appeared in the print edition of TheWrap Magazine’s Miniseries/Movies Emmy Issue.

Swagger — that’s what Riley Keough has in “The Girlfriend Experience,” Starz’s limited series based on the Steven Soderbergh movie from 2009. As Christine, a student-turned-prostitute who enjoys her work, the 27-year-old actress embraced the role taken by Sasha Grey in the original film, of a strong, sexual woman unapologetic about her career.

“She’s happy with her choices,” said Keough, who also happens to be the granddaughter of Elvis Presley. “I don’t think she needs other people to make her feel better, which is very rare for a female character. If I was reading this pilot about a man, I would be like, ‘Yeah! He’s got swagger.‘”

As usual, Keough is nobody’s victim in the miniseries. “‘The Girlfriend Experience’ is about power,” she said. “Christine’s a controlling, selfish, manipulative person who channels that into her law career, and this new career that she seems to get more power out of. She’s just a very practical girl who likes sex.”

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Keough met with Christine’s real-world equivalents, “girls who enjoyed it and chose to do it” — though in one way, the real Christines were different from the character. “The thing I was most interested in was, ‘Do you have feelings for your client?’” she said. “And they did. It was actually very sad, because a lot of them had stories about a client who might have feelings back, but they’d never get together. There was a sadness that really struck me.”

But if there’s any of that sadness in Christine, the audience doesn’t see it. “It didn’t go into her inner dialogue or tell you how to feel. I thought that was a very interesting thing to do to an audience.”

The original film was one of Soderbergh’s more adventurous and defiantly indie productions, and the TV version — created and written by Lodge Kerrigan and Amy Seimetz, and executive produced by Soderbergh — takes a similar approach.

“The whole thing was very experimental and fun,” said Keough, who got her start in the 2010 rock movie “The Runaways.” “It was the format of independent film — tiny crew, very low lighting. I heard that TV is very rigid, you have to hit your mark, and I thought, ‘Oh, God!’ But the idea of this is to shoot it like a film. We got to do what we wanted. I think there was one Starz rep there the whole time, and they didn’t see a cut until the end.”

Like her grandfather during his largely unfortunate years in Hollywood, Keough said she is offered her share of lucrative but lousy projects. “It’s tempting financially for like 15 seconds, but I’ve never been in it for those things so I don’t have a problem,” said Keough, whose mother is Lisa Marie Presley and whose stepdads have includedNicolas Cage and Michael Jackson.

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The Hollywood Reporter interview: Riley Keough on the ‘Girlfriend Experience’ Talks About Avoiding Playing the “Hot Dumb Girl”

“[Actresses] have to play the dumb girlfriend forever until they finally get their chance,” the ‘Girlfriend Experience’ star says, as she talks with THR about Hollywood stereotypes, working with Steven Soderbergh and why she looks up to Brie Larson and Alicia Vikander.

Four years ago, Riley Keough took a turn as a stripper in Magic Mike. Now starring in Starz’s The Girlfriend Experience, she’s got an even saucier role, that of a high-end escort who’s a law student by day. The part marks the 27-year-old actress’ second collaboration with Magic Mike helmer Steven Soderbergh, who executive produced this anthology adaptation of his 2009 movie. “The one thing I said in the beginning is that I’m not going be able to play what you would imagine a generic, sexy law student moonlighting as an escort to be,” says Keough. “She was going to be a little bit off.” The granddaughter of Elvis Presley and daughter of Lisa Marie soon will work with the prolific director for a third time on his return to the film world, Logan Lucky, her role in which — much like the film itself — is shrouded in secrecy. She most recently appeared in George Miller’s Mad Max: Fury Road and next stars in the Cannes standout American Honey alongside Shia LaBeouf and sci-fi romance The Discovery with Robert Redford.

How did you get this role?

Steven came to me two years after Magic Mike and was like, “Hey, we have this show and we want you to play the lead in it.” I read the script and had questions like, “What is the point of this show?” (Laughs.) I tend to overanalyze.

Did Soderbergh explain?

They just ended up giving me [scripts for] all of the episodes, which is rare for TV. I had this very weird phenomenon occurring where I was having all of these emotions and the character, Christine, wasn’t. Like, I’m irritated or nervous, and she’s just chill. I found myself projecting my own feelings onto her.

But did you get your questions answered?

Yes. I cannot and will not play something if I still have questions. I feel like I am being fraudulent. I’ve done it once probably, and I will never do it again. That is just my own integrity. If I feel like I’m full of shit, then surely everyone else will feel like I am full of shit.

Since this is your first time working on a TV series, albeit a limited series, did you have any concerns?

What I had heard about TV is that it’s very rigid — that you have to hit your mark, look a certain way, do certain things, that there is no freedom artistically — and that’s my worst nightmare. I don’t work well in rigid environments. But the idea of getting to develop this character in real time was really exciting to me. Depending on your role, you normally get 15 minutes to an hour on the screen in a film, and you’re like, “How do I get all of this into this one scene?” In TV, you can just exist as the character.

And that offers advantages for the viewer, right?

Yeah, you get to know Christine in a more realistic time frame. It builds in the way it would build if you meet a real human being. That said, I was like, “I don’t know if this is going to work for TV. People might be like, “What the f— is this?” We shot it like an independent film, so it’s different than what TV viewers are used to seeing.

Did you do any research into high-end sex work?

I met with call girls — and they weren’t crazy! They were actually very smart women; most of them were probably more intelligent than me. It kind of put me in my place, and it opened my eyes to the fact that there are intelligent college students putting themselves through school that way and enjoy it. I didn’t know anything about sex work before, but it was fine because I was playing Christine as she discovers this.

What was the hardest thing for you to wrap your mind around about the character?

Her ability to compartmentalize things because I’m not very good at that at all.

You’ve said that the sexual nature of the material wasn’t difficult for you. Why do you think that is?

People get weird about sex, but I had gotten to a place where I understood Christine, and I was in her headspace. She’s not uncomfortable in those moments, so I’m not uncomfortable. I am more insecure than Christine in some ways, but I was definitely her for that period of time — and that really helped. You play to different parts of yourself when you take on various roles. Like, you are your confident self when you’re playing this person, and you’re your sad self when playing another person — but it’s all a part of you somewhere.

Do you want to do more television?

I do and I don’t — it’s stressful. There are a couple opportunities at the moment, but I have never been committed to something for four or six years. I got lucky with The Girlfriend Experience in the sense that it was one season and was meant to be that way. When I signed on, they told me that every season is going to be a different girl. I was like, “Sweet, if I hate it, then I’m out.” I get done playing people, and I feel that way with Christine. I wouldn’t want to do a second season.

What’s the biggest misconception people have about you?

Not to be an asshole, but people are expecting a hot dumb girl, whereas I am sort of cynical and smart. I know from auditions because I get called in to do roles, and I’m like, “You don’t know me. I am not going to be able to play that well.” And it’s for the pretty girl, the sexy girlfriend. The roles they write for women are so shitty. I think part of me just rebels against it, so I immediately make myself not able to do [the part]. I walk in the room, and they are like, “Oh, never mind.”

Are there not better roles for women now?

Our options still are limited. Though what I am reading right now in film versus TV is like night and day. I think because it’s scary to go outside the box when you’re trying to sell a blockbuster. And if there is a good movie, there are five girls who are going to do it, and all of the other ones have to play the dumb girlfriend forever until they finally get their chance. That’s why I feel so empowered by Brie Larson and Alicia Vikander. Now we’re demanding more-intelligent and less-two-dimensional roles. It’s breaking down that stupid thing where you have to be a dumb blond girl with big boobs. Whoever first brought that to the table is being torn to shit.

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Riley Keough seen out and about in NYC before the live tv show – 8 June 2016

Riley, 27, looked in fine form indeed in a silk top, which boasted generously sized panels cut out at her shoulders and chest, high-waisted baggy green trousers from Juan Carlos Obando Fall /Winter 2016 and matching stilettos. She rocked this  outfit!

Simply Riley has some good quality photos from the day added to its Gallery , including many high quality photos from this fabulous day!

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